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Ok you guys, give it to me straight. Is lojban dead?
no. what makes u think so?
>>1713Lojban student here. I started learning a few months ago. I don't think so but it certainly suffers from a lack of speakers and resources online.
> "Ok you guys, give it to me straight. Is lojban dead?".ianai It went to a better place .a'o bazi mutce-tavla
> "Ok you guys, give it to me straight. Is lojban dead?"
.ianai It went to a better place .a'o bazi mutce-tavla
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I have a few questions about Lojban selbri conversions:Can I use "te" with a selbri that has less than two terbri?If I were to want to use "se" somewhere other than adjacent to and before a selbri, how would I do so?Can one say something like. "te se cadzu"?Can I use conversion with mekso? For example, in order to say "the nth power of base x, (x^n)" can I say "li ny se te'a xy"?
> Can I use "te" with a selbri that has less than two terbri?You mean less than three? I think you "can", but what would it mean?> If I were to want to use "se" somewhere other than adjacent to and before a selbri, how would I do so?I'm pretty sure this is the only place "se" goes.> Can one say something like. "te se cadzu"?Yes!> Can I use conversion with mekso? For example, in order to say "the nth power of base x, (x^n)" can I say "li ny se te'a xy"? Comment is too long. Go here to view the full text.
> Can I use "te" with a selbri that has less than two terbri?
You mean less than three? I think you "can", but what would it mean?
> If I were to want to use "se" somewhere other than adjacent to and before a selbri, how would I do so?
I'm pretty sure this is the only place "se" goes.
> Can one say something like. "te se cadzu"?
Yes!
> Can I use conversion with mekso? For example, in order to say "the nth power of base x, (x^n)" can I say "li ny se te'a xy"?
> Can I use conversion with mekso? For example, in order to say "the nth power of base x, (x^n)" can I say "li ny se te'a xy"?Yes, you can. Grammar allows it, per> mex-operator = SE # mex-operator | [...]Parse-tree would be: | +-CMAVO : li [LI] | | +-CMAVO : ny [BY2] | | | +-CMAVO : se [SE] | | | +-CMAVO : te'a [VUhU2] | | +-MEX_OPERATOR | | +-CMAVO : xy [BY2] Comment is too long. Go here to view the full text.
Yes, you can. Grammar allows it, per
> mex-operator = SE # mex-operator | [...]
Parse-tree would be:
| +-CMAVO : li [LI] | | +-CMAVO : ny [BY2] | | | +-CMAVO : se [SE] | | | +-CMAVO : te'a [VUhU2] | | +-MEX_OPERATOR | | +-CMAVO : xy [BY2]
Everyone
Beta version. I can't directly upload the files for some reason, so here are pastie links.http://pastie.org/3743075http://pastie.org/3743101Save the first as "jbo.lang" and the second one as "languages.txt". Save them both to "~/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar/lang/", start up Minecraft, and select a language by clicking the globe icon. Lojban will be an available choice. Please contact me on IRC if there are issues.
Arright, pastie.org down until further notice.Here's a mirror on Pastebin:http://pastebin.com/B3Pp88gT jbo.langhttp://pastebin.com/GDhUXUQV languages.txtAnd here's the updated script to reflect this: http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=UczC4hFw
Arright, pastie.org down until further notice.
Here's a mirror on Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/B3Pp88gT jbo.langhttp://pastebin.com/GDhUXUQV languages.txt
And here's the updated script to reflect this: http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=UczC4hFw
YEEEEEESH! Ultraneckbeardmode engaged. I love you.
It's not working for me. Is this still up to date?
I just 'discovered' that viki.com (a free legal movie, drama, music, anime streaming service) has an online subtitles editor for it's videos, with Lojban in the list of languages.This can help promoting Lojban and as practice.
So, earlier I posted a script that lets you (on *nix systems) download and (sort of) automatically install the Minecraft Lojban translation, to get overwritten every update. Well, I have a better solution. Magic Launcher (available here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939149-launcher-magic-launcher-100-mods-options-news/) allows you to take any minecraft mod .zip file, and use it with Minecraft without ever modifying the .jar file or deleting anything or getting overwritten. To use this, simply download the MagicLauncher-1.0.0.exe file and the jbolang.zip file, configure the 'Default' to include the jbolang.zip, launch and set your language in 'Languages' to lojban. You're finished! No more overwritten files, no more hassle.
So, earlier I posted a script that lets you (on *nix systems) download and (sort of) automatically install the Minecraft Lojban translation, to get overwritten every update. Well, I have a better solution.
Magic Launcher (available here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939149-launcher-magic-launcher-100-mods-options-news/) allows you to take any minecraft mod .zip file, and use it with Minecraft without ever modifying the .jar file or deleting anything or getting overwritten.
To use this, simply download the MagicLauncher-1.0.0.exe file and the jbolang.zip file, configure the 'Default' to include the jbolang.zip, launch and set your language in 'Languages' to lojban. You're finished! No more overwritten files, no more hassle.
Google Doc available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gmqO1B-v6ooU9GTLIMx4smB9rM-j_mqALChM0En9YAg/editTo build this file yourself, simply run these commands:unzip ~.minecraft.jar lang/languages.txtwget https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gmqO1B-v6ooU9GTLIMx4smB9rM-j_mqALChM0En9YAg/export?format=txt -O lang/jbo_JBO.langecho "jbo_JBO=lojban" >> lang/languages.txtzip -9r jbolang.zip lang/
Google Doc available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gmqO1B-v6ooU9GTLIMx4smB9rM-j_mqALChM0En9YAg/edit
To build this file yourself, simply run these commands:
unzip ~.minecraft.jar lang/languages.txtwget https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gmqO1B-v6ooU9GTLIMx4smB9rM-j_mqALChM0En9YAg/export?format=txt -O lang/jbo_JBO.langecho "jbo_JBO=lojban" >> lang/languages.txtzip -9r jbolang.zip lang/
Uhm. jbolang.zip is linked in my name in the original post.http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508229/jbolang.zip
Uhm. jbolang.zip is linked in my name in the original post.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/508229/jbolang.zip
Here's a simple script I made, to make whatever phrase you input into it into a .flac file for your Android phone!Requires espeak and sox.Script is here:http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZKWvCwGq
Here's a simple script I made, to make whatever phrase you input into it into a .flac file for your Android phone!
Requires espeak and sox.
Script is here:http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZKWvCwGq
Oops, made a mistake there, this works: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yq8DxbQM
Would anyone (with a cellphone (best with infinite texts)) be interested in setting up a beginner and advanced Lojban group? I could set it up, it's completely free, and it's both semicasual overall but requires much less attention span overall than IRC. (You don't have to keep up with it throughout the day, more queue than stream). I use it for the groups I'm in at school, as well as other general services, it works very well and is flexible in disabling.I could set it up instantly if anyone's interested!
Would anyone (with a cellphone (best with infinite texts)) be interested in setting up a beginner and advanced Lojban group? I could set it up, it's completely free, and it's both semicasual overall but requires much less attention span overall than IRC. (You don't have to keep up with it throughout the day, more queue than stream).
I use it for the groups I'm in at school, as well as other general services, it works very well and is flexible in disabling.
I could set it up instantly if anyone's interested!
I'm interested. hit me up on irc when it's ready.
Looks like there's enough interest. Email me your number or text it to (469-443-8325) with a note and I'll add you to the group, we'll differentiate and add another group if there's enough activity on this one :D
Whoops, my email is feilen1000@gmail.com
for those of you who don't know: pimsleur is a language-learning method where each lesson is a 30 minute long audio file (MP3). it's so unbelievably easy to learn using pimsleur that I've learnt as much japanese in 2 months as I learnt german in 5 years at school! plus, it's a handy little audio course that you can put on your MP3 player and listen to anytime anywhere.many people have spent a lot of time creating computer programs to learn lojban.I can't believe, though, that nobody has created a Pimsleur-type audio lesson for learning lojban.it would take a while to make, it's true, but:1) it would be one of the greatest contributions anyone has ever made to lojban2) we could make a simple version first, which would just basically be a translation of an existing Pimsleur lesson. this would already be GREAT help, and we could then (when we have more time), make a "version 2", which would be more professional and lojban-specific.I'm sure lojban speakers will notice the "version 1" has so much success that many will want to help making the "version 2".I don't have a sufficient level in lojban to do it myself, but if nobody is motivated enough, I will do it as soon as I have a sufficient level.please, lojban speakers, making a lesson like this would change the lojban landscape completely.and let's be honest, the language isn't popular enough, and its survival depends on a few websites. this could actually save the language as a whole.
for those of you who don't know: pimsleur is a language-learning method where each lesson is a 30 minute long audio file (MP3). it's so unbelievably easy to learn using pimsleur that I've learnt as much japanese in 2 months as I learnt german in 5 years at school! plus, it's a handy little audio course that you can put on your MP3 player and listen to anytime anywhere.many people have spent a lot of time creating computer programs to learn lojban.I can't believe, though, that nobody has created a Pimsleur-type audio lesson for learning lojban.it would take a while to make, it's true, but:1) it would be one of the greatest contributions anyone has ever made to lojban2) we could make a simple version first, which would just basically be a translation of an existing Pimsleur lesson. this would already be GREAT help, and we could then (when we have more time), make a "version 2", which would be more professional and lojban-specific.I'm sure lojban speakers will notice the "version 1" has so much success that many will want to help making the "version 2".
I don't have a sufficient level in lojban to do it myself, but if nobody is motivated enough, I will do it as soon as I have a sufficient level.please, lojban speakers, making a lesson like this would change the lojban landscape completely.and let's be honest, the language isn't popular enough, and its survival depends on a few websites. this could actually save the language as a whole.
This REALLY needs to happen. I'd love to use it, and to help other people learn with it ... I feel like I'm forever learning lojban, so somebody more fluent needs to do this.
I'm am currently beginning to learn Mandarin using Pimsleur. I will hopefully understand its methods so that maybe I can begin constructing a lojban version following its method closely. It could be made collaboratively. Maybe using an etherpad document or revision control?? The beginning is a simple greeting + question exchange followed by English introduction. Infact there is an entire audio file just introducing the pimsleur method, so lojban mastery i dont think is require to begin with. start making it, then nag experienced speakers to check your lojban. I suspect this will corce progress better than nagging experienced speakers to do it themselves.
I think the first thing to do is to write up a 30-minute lesson and have someone with a clear voice record it.I know too little about Lojban to competently write such a lesson, at least for the time being.
I think the first thing to do is to write up a 30-minute lesson and have someone with a clear voice record it.
I know too little about Lojban to competently write such a lesson, at least for the time being.