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la zbalermorna la lalxu
16/08/24(Wed)14:54 No.920
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la zbalermorna la lalxu 16/08/24(Wed)14:54 No.920   [Reply] []

(The previous thread became a spammy mess. I figured the finalized version of la zbalermorna deserves its own thread.)

zbalermorna is a beautiful abugida writing system for Lojban, designed by la kmir.

Documentation: https://mw.lojban.org/images/b/b3/ZLM4_Writeup_v2.pdf

← I doodled this in my notebook! It says {ko lojbo}.

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RE: la zbalermorna Anonymous
16/08/29(Mon)23:02 No.922 []

how do you say check my dubs in lojban

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RE: la zbalermorna la lalxu
16/09/03(Sat)12:05 No.923 []
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lo mi joi-zei-lisxra

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test Anonymous
17/02/14(Tue)12:55 No.924 []
drani
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larlermorna Anonymous
10/11/07(Sun)04:04 No.585
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larlermorna Anonymous 10/11/07(Sun)04:04 No.585   [Reply] []

CUNTABULOUS PENIFICATIONARY!

So, here's larlermorna. I finally got the time to do it out right with a tablet and all that fancy shit. ko catlu and all that.

I would like to point out that this is very very fancy, so I tried to do a 'straight' version first. I'll post some follow-up with some different styles of writing to show off the flexibility.

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RE: larlermorna Anonymous
14/11/12(Wed)21:22 No.890 []

Hi, how's it going? Just shared this /ideas/ - Ideas with a colleague, we had a good laugh.
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RE: larlermorna Anonymous
14/11/19(Wed)09:16 No.891 []

If any one wants to be a successful blogger, afterward he/she must read this paragraph /ideas/ - Ideas , as it carries al} methods related to that.
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RE: larlermorna Anonymous
16/08/29(Mon)23:00 No.921 []

where is y and '

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la zbalermorna Third Official Master Ref .lakmir.
08/12/03(Wed)13:04 No.284
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la zbalermorna Third Official Master Ref .lakmir. 08/12/03(Wed)13:04 No.284   [Reply] []

Next update will be a chart detailing some of the changes and explaining why they were made.
Any images not in this thread are now OUT OF DATE.

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RE: la zbalermorna Third Official Master Ref .kmir.
12/07/11(Wed)11:32 No.650 []

@647
Thanks very much! Your comment is encouraging :)

@648
Nope, full vowels have specific roles and using them wrong is renders your sentence invalid.

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RE: la zbalermorna Third Official Master Ref Anonymous
12/08/09(Thu)22:05 No.653 []

Sooooo, how stable is this version?
Even though its just a tweak of the older stuff, should this not change for a good while?

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RE: la zbalermorna Third Official Master Ref Anonymous
13/06/11(Tue)06:05 No.664 []

Is this the most up-to-date version?

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Lojban Flag concept ctino
10/11/24(Wed)06:58 No.610
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Lojban Flag concept ctino 10/11/24(Wed)06:58 No.610   [Reply] []

Based loosely on the Bridi Man.
It is intentionally b/w.

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RE: Lojban Flag concept Anonymous
15/12/30(Wed)04:08 No.912 []

>>623

I agree with this sentiment.

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RE: Lojban Flag concept Anonymous
16/04/13(Wed)06:54 No.916 []

>>623

le sedyta'u cu desku

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RE: Lojban Flag concept Anonymous
16/04/29(Fri)09:43 No.917 []

>>916
le lijda sinxa dacti cu slilu li so'i

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la kurfa staile zbalermorna la ramcinfo
16/03/24(Thu)08:38 No.913
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la kurfa staile zbalermorna la ramcinfo 16/03/24(Thu)08:38 No.913   [Reply] []

This place seems to be mostly abandoned, and yet I post, for sake of tradition. This is my stylization of la kmir's zbalermorna. The form of letters stays approximately the same; vowel diacritics go below preceding consonants, not above, and rafsi- and rafsi-like CVC and CCV sequences are written as one vertical block.

The typeface is influenced primarily by 'Phags-pa script and especially geometrized forms of Kufic calligrafic form of Arabic, but also by Tibetan script and Devanagari. Fictional writing system from video game FEZ and pictogram aesthetics from The Journey also left their mark.

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RE: la kurfa staile zbalermorna la ramcinfo
16/03/24(Thu)08:40 No.914 []

P.S. I tried to contact la kmir on this, but wasn't able to find the way to do so - maybe anyone knows his contacts?

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RE: la kurfa staile zbalermorna Anonymous
16/03/29(Tue)12:26 No.915 []

it looks really good!

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Lojban Modes! la .lindar.
10/07/06(Tue)03:36 No.572
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Lojban Modes! la .lindar. 10/07/06(Tue)03:36 No.572   [Reply] []

Let's start grabbing up orthographies and creating Lojban modes for them!

I personally don't like the existing Tengwar modes, but I'll post my version (FAR superior!) later. For now, I have a Lojban mode set up for D'ni (featured in the popular Myst and Riven games) and Klingon. I don't know quite so much about Klingon, so somebody may want to pop in and correct me, but I'll post my thoughts behind each choice.

"Fake" scripts aside, do we have Lojban modes for scripts like Cyrillic, Hebrew, whatever Farsi is written in, etc.? We should document them! People do often gripe about Roman letters being too western-biased, but new scripts too difficult, so we should make an effort to create Lojban modes for all of the different scripts out there, and maybe even use them, hm?

I'm also working on some ideas for the much-sought-after Hiragana/Katakana Lojban mode, because I have an inkling of how to pull it off.

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RE: Lojban Modes! Anonymous
13/11/23(Sat)19:14 No.669 []

>>668

To my knowledge, there are two:
Srilermorna
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/srilermorna

And
Zbalermorna
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Lakmir.%27s+Vowel-Diacritic+Orthography

Personally, I like Zbalermora more, but that is just personal preference, I guess.

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RE: Lojban Modes! Anonymous
13/11/24(Sun)14:25 No.670 []

>>669
Personal preference or not, I agree. I've never been a fan of cursive. Though the way Zbalermorna flips characters for voiced pairs reminds me of the headache I had while learning Shavian and couldn't remember which way was up. Shavian had other problems, though...

I wonder what the prospects are of lojban ever officially adopting a new mode.

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RE: Lojban Modes! la .kristan.
15/11/15(Sun)02:00 No.911 []

From the pdf: "Zbalermorna is primarily designed to be written by hand. It is best suited to writing with the right hand, but can be adapted."

Isn't that always the way. I'm not sure that a handed-neutral script is possible, but, still. Someday when I have time I will design a script that is best suited to the left hand; then things will be evened out a little...

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Another Elian-like proposal remod
09/10/30(Fri)13:54 No.496
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Another Elian-like proposal remod 09/10/30(Fri)13:54 No.496   [Reply] []

Following lindar, I've put together a proposal for a script that is based on the same principles of the Elian script.
I've not made any attempt to callygraphy, but the system has a lot of flexibility that should allow people to express their aestethic ability.

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RE: Another Elian-like proposal Anonymous
15/03/27(Fri)09:24 No.905 []

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RE: Another Elian-like proposal Anonymous
15/05/08(Fri)03:04 No.906 []

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RE: Another Elian-like proposal Anonymous
15/08/05(Wed)22:18 No.910 []

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http://dunyazad.com.au/About-us/About-Us/OakleyWire.asp

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Arabic orthography Anonymous
11/09/30(Fri)14:58 No.629
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Arabic orthography Anonymous 11/09/30(Fri)14:58 No.629   [Reply] []

A possible arabic orthography. The precise assignments for tanwiin could be different.

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RE: Arabic orthography VaryGEEK
11/10/29(Sat)02:45 No.633 []

Agree.
Although not necessarily arabic, latin characters are not good.
Script is better in terms of flow and readability.

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RE: Arabic orthography Anonymous
12/07/08(Sun)04:43 No.649 []

Might I suggest a few revisions?
ا=.
پ=p
ڤ=v

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RE: Arabic orthography Anonymous
14/11/26(Wed)23:46 No.893 []

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qq qq
13/04/25(Thu)13:48 No.662
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qq qq 13/04/25(Thu)13:48 No.662   [Reply] []

qq

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RE: qq Anonymous
13/05/31(Fri)04:26 No.663 []

le mutpapri ca'o piso'uroi te vitke vau za'a

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Programming some voice recognition functions Drew
14/10/22(Wed)05:57 No.857
Programming some voice recognition functions Drew 14/10/22(Wed)05:57 No.857   [Reply] []

Hello Lojbanis! My friend has been telling me about Lojban for a couple months, and I immediately loved it, though I must say, I'm only through part of chapter 2 so I'm a complete noob. I think it's amazing though, and I'm just wondering, has any work been done on some kind of Lojban based verbal text editor or better yet IDE? That seems like a really logical place to go.

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gismu ladders Anonymous
12/05/05(Sat)11:01 No.643
gismu ladders Anonymous 12/05/05(Sat)11:01 No.643   [Reply] []

For a while now I have been thinking about how gismu are related to one-another, in a very typographical sense. Has any work been done towards finding the links between gismu that are only one edit away from each other?

I understand that the links between the words would not contain anything meaningful, I just think it's slightly interesting.

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A similar game la tsani
12/05/09(Wed)02:51 No.645 []

la nikle gerku is perhaps the oldest lojban word game. It involves making a story around a fictional "nickle dog", but it's very unlike a word ladder. Also, in general, no two gismu differ only in one letter (there are a few exceptions). Another, slightly less famous game is vlalinkei, the word-chain-game. Words are said one after the other by the players to form the most complicated sentence, in an attempt to form both an interesting story, but also to trip up other players. With more skilled lojbanists, this game becomes extremely hard to win at.

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RE: gismu ladders la lorxus
13/11/16(Sat)05:21 No.667 []

Had an idea for a game similar to games like shiritori - you take a gismu and alternatingly produce CVCCV and CCVCV gismu such that the last cluster-vowel set (smu in gismu, re in xunre) matches the next gismu's first cluster (smu in smuni, re in renro). You lose if you cannot produce such a gismu (or possibly if your final CCV cluster is an illegal start cluster.)

Possible course of play:
gismu -> smuni -> nicte -> ctebi -> binxo

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A solution to lojban-shiritori Ross Ogivlie
13/11/28(Thu)03:06 No.671 []

I programmed a solution to the game that lorxus described. Graphs available below. Interesting features are a pair of words (dicra and cradi) and a cluster of 330 mutual reachable words (ie, between any two words of that cluster, there is a sequence of moves joining them). The game is otherwise acyclic.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0yrvpgyknupw59a/pCEBTTDlHE -- overview.png and cluster.svg

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script font lestyr
12/09/20(Thu)10:14 No.660
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script font lestyr 12/09/20(Thu)10:14 No.660   [Reply] []
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RE: script font lestyr
12/09/20(Thu)11:02 No.661 []
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with end-vowel

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Quotation marks la .iesk.
12/08/29(Wed)16:07 No.655
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Quotation marks la .iesk. 12/08/29(Wed)16:07 No.655   [Reply] []

… for Mr Everson.

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.i'e la tsani
12/09/08(Sat)00:05 No.658 []
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.i la'a lo me lo do pixra moi ke datselsku sinxa cu selneirai mi .i ku'i xu do jinvi lo du'u lo sinxa cu ba'e basti lo valsi fi'o cukta ku

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doi la tsani la .iesk.
12/09/09(Sun)20:44 No.659 []

.i mi na birti lodu'u mi jimpe fi do .i zoi sinx. « » .sinx. na basti da poi valsi co fasybau ma'i lo se pixra .i le'e se fasybau na krici fi lo za'e ranmrxizoformismodioviziele vau la'a

mu'o

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An alphabetic Arabic orthography cntrational
11/09/30(Fri)16:01 No.630
An alphabetic Arabic orthography cntrational 11/09/30(Fri)16:01 No.630   [Reply] []

Uses letters to represent vowels, like Kashmiri, Uyghur, and Kurdish.

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a ا
e إ
i ي
o أ
u و
y ى

f ف
v ق
x خ

s س

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RE: An alphabetic Arabic orthography cntrational
11/09/30(Fri)16:03 No.631 []

Er, last one is supposed to be
لا .رأبين. پرامي لأ ري گإرکو

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xrabo lerfu ke troci ke lojbo tcati ritli ke se ciska la .iesk.
12/08/31(Fri)17:26 No.656 []
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za'e ku'urdi selylerfu pilno
mu'o

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barna la .iesk.
12/09/03(Mon)08:03 No.657 []

.i ke'u nai pe'i barna dukse .i la'a ka'e lerfu sampu zmadu gasnu tezu'e tu'a la .lojban. .i mi cfagau sepi'o lo ku'urdi selyle'u po'o mu'o

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Impossible sounds Henrik Hansen
08/12/07(Sun)18:08 No.311
Impossible sounds Henrik Hansen 08/12/07(Sun)18:08 No.311   [Reply] []

The sound ø, is, as far as I can see, impossible to do in the current set of sounds that Lojban offer.
This is a big flaw if it's true!!!
Serval names are impossible to convert, and the language pronouncification don't utilize the humans voice inertly.

So is this true, is Lojban incomplete, and if this is intentional, what would you do with a name like Søren Østergård
So should we add n

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Anonymous
08/12/07(Sun)19:08 No.312 []

When you lojbanize a name or fu'ivla, you convert sounds not present in Lojban to their nearest equivalent. The closest Lojban equivalent of ø is e. This is no worse than, for example, Lojbanizing the name Theodore to .tiodor. by replacing θ with t.

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donri
08/12/08(Mon)04:25 No.314 []

Isn't {y} like "ø"? It is like "ö" anyway. Call it a flaw all you like, no language support the full IPA natively and it would be well beyond the scope of lojban to do so. OMG we must support nonhuman sounds too! Where would you draw the limit? Human? Who defines human? ...

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RE: Impossible sounds Anonymous
12/04/28(Sat)16:18 No.641 []

I think the point is not to support all possible sounds but to only support ones that are found in most of the largest languages and that don't sound similar. That is, not having uncommon sounds is a feature, not a bug.

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