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lo and SE Anonymous
16/06/18(Sat)16:46 No.1813
lo and SE Anonymous 16/06/18(Sat)16:46 No.1813   []

dumb ass question: if {lo klama} can mean literally anything related to going (and not necessarily someone who goes), then why is {lo se klama} considered to mean 'destination' instead of having the exact same meaning as {lo klama}?

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RE: lo and SE Anonymous
16/06/18(Sat)21:20 No.1814 []

{lo klama} doesn't mean anything related to going, it is precisely someone who goes. From where did you get this idea? "Anything related to going" is {lo klama co'e} or maybe {lo jai do'e klama}.

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do fi le bergu sidbo .e le xorlo cu djuno fe noda lo ta'o na'e pamoi mrilu
16/06/20(Mon)22:46 No.1815 []

>>1814
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/jbocre:_Bear_goo
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/xorlo

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RE: lo and SE Anonymous
16/06/21(Tue)11:13 No.1817 []

>>1815
You mininterpret xorlo. It has nothing to do with selbri places. Indeed, {lo klama} may put "goer" into any number or tense, but in no circumstations it can mean "destination" (except when goer and destination are one and the same).

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do jinvi lo jitfa Anonymous
16/06/21(Tue)17:30 No.1819 []

>>1817
In https://mw.lojban.org/papri/How_to_use_xorlo

>lo with no outer or inner quantifier is absolutely generic; lo pinxe means something(s) or other to do with drinking, and that's about it. Thankfully, context is plenty 99% of the time. Expect to see a lot more lo compared to 'The Complete Lojban Language' book!

What was the point of this?

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RE: lo and SE la nu ro do me mi bu'a'a
16/06/21(Tue)21:50 No.1820 []

>>1813
>>1815
>>1819
The "anything related to" copy is indeed weird. I suspect it's mainly there to block the narrow mindset people get into when they hear that Lojban is "logical" or "unambiguous". Lojban itself doesn't put any restrictions on what is in the domain of discourse or how it translates to the real world, so there is no problem with using {lo} and ordinary predicates for, say, characters in stories. And IMO saying {lo cribe} can't be bear goo makes no sense. Isn't tense unspecified by default?

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.uinai fe su'o ka'e sanji cu jifselkri Anonymous
16/07/04(Mon)15:48 No.1824 []

>>1820

>how it translates to the real world

Hardly any Lojbanists even believe in the real world, let alone care about whether thoughts accurately describe it.

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RE: lo and SE la lalxu
16/09/10(Sat)13:50 No.1825 []

>>1819
I removed it.

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