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Arabic orthography Anonymous
11/09/30(Fri)14:58 No.629
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Arabic orthography Anonymous 11/09/30(Fri)14:58 No.629   [Reply] []

A possible arabic orthography. The precise assignments for tanwiin could be different.

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RE: Arabic orthography VaryGEEK
11/10/29(Sat)02:45 No.633 []

Agree.
Although not necessarily arabic, latin characters are not good.
Script is better in terms of flow and readability.

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RE: Arabic orthography Anonymous
12/07/08(Sun)04:43 No.649 []

Might I suggest a few revisions?
ا=.
پ=p
ڤ=v

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RE: Arabic orthography Anonymous
14/11/26(Wed)23:46 No.893 []

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qq qq
13/04/25(Thu)13:48 No.662
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qq qq 13/04/25(Thu)13:48 No.662   [Reply] []

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RE: qq Anonymous
13/05/31(Fri)04:26 No.663 []

le mutpapri ca'o piso'uroi te vitke vau za'a

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Programming some voice recognition functions Drew
14/10/22(Wed)05:57 No.857
Programming some voice recognition functions Drew 14/10/22(Wed)05:57 No.857   [Reply] []

Hello Lojbanis! My friend has been telling me about Lojban for a couple months, and I immediately loved it, though I must say, I'm only through part of chapter 2 so I'm a complete noob. I think it's amazing though, and I'm just wondering, has any work been done on some kind of Lojban based verbal text editor or better yet IDE? That seems like a really logical place to go.

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gismu ladders Anonymous
12/05/05(Sat)11:01 No.643
gismu ladders Anonymous 12/05/05(Sat)11:01 No.643   [Reply] []

For a while now I have been thinking about how gismu are related to one-another, in a very typographical sense. Has any work been done towards finding the links between gismu that are only one edit away from each other?

I understand that the links between the words would not contain anything meaningful, I just think it's slightly interesting.

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A similar game la tsani
12/05/09(Wed)02:51 No.645 []

la nikle gerku is perhaps the oldest lojban word game. It involves making a story around a fictional "nickle dog", but it's very unlike a word ladder. Also, in general, no two gismu differ only in one letter (there are a few exceptions). Another, slightly less famous game is vlalinkei, the word-chain-game. Words are said one after the other by the players to form the most complicated sentence, in an attempt to form both an interesting story, but also to trip up other players. With more skilled lojbanists, this game becomes extremely hard to win at.

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RE: gismu ladders la lorxus
13/11/16(Sat)05:21 No.667 []

Had an idea for a game similar to games like shiritori - you take a gismu and alternatingly produce CVCCV and CCVCV gismu such that the last cluster-vowel set (smu in gismu, re in xunre) matches the next gismu's first cluster (smu in smuni, re in renro). You lose if you cannot produce such a gismu (or possibly if your final CCV cluster is an illegal start cluster.)

Possible course of play:
gismu -> smuni -> nicte -> ctebi -> binxo

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A solution to lojban-shiritori Ross Ogivlie
13/11/28(Thu)03:06 No.671 []

I programmed a solution to the game that lorxus described. Graphs available below. Interesting features are a pair of words (dicra and cradi) and a cluster of 330 mutual reachable words (ie, between any two words of that cluster, there is a sequence of moves joining them). The game is otherwise acyclic.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0yrvpgyknupw59a/pCEBTTDlHE -- overview.png and cluster.svg

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script font lestyr
12/09/20(Thu)10:14 No.660
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script font lestyr 12/09/20(Thu)10:14 No.660   [Reply] []
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RE: script font lestyr
12/09/20(Thu)11:02 No.661 []
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with end-vowel

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Quotation marks la .iesk.
12/08/29(Wed)16:07 No.655
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Quotation marks la .iesk. 12/08/29(Wed)16:07 No.655   [Reply] []

… for Mr Everson.

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.i'e la tsani
12/09/08(Sat)00:05 No.658 []
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.i la'a lo me lo do pixra moi ke datselsku sinxa cu selneirai mi .i ku'i xu do jinvi lo du'u lo sinxa cu ba'e basti lo valsi fi'o cukta ku

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doi la tsani la .iesk.
12/09/09(Sun)20:44 No.659 []

.i mi na birti lodu'u mi jimpe fi do .i zoi sinx. « » .sinx. na basti da poi valsi co fasybau ma'i lo se pixra .i le'e se fasybau na krici fi lo za'e ranmrxizoformismodioviziele vau la'a

mu'o

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An alphabetic Arabic orthography cntrational
11/09/30(Fri)16:01 No.630
An alphabetic Arabic orthography cntrational 11/09/30(Fri)16:01 No.630   [Reply] []

Uses letters to represent vowels, like Kashmiri, Uyghur, and Kurdish.

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a ا
e إ
i ي
o أ
u و
y ى

f ف
v ق
x خ

s س

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RE: An alphabetic Arabic orthography cntrational
11/09/30(Fri)16:03 No.631 []

Er, last one is supposed to be
لا .رأبين. پرامي لأ ري گإرکو

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xrabo lerfu ke troci ke lojbo tcati ritli ke se ciska la .iesk.
12/08/31(Fri)17:26 No.656 []
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za'e ku'urdi selylerfu pilno
mu'o

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barna la .iesk.
12/09/03(Mon)08:03 No.657 []

.i ke'u nai pe'i barna dukse .i la'a ka'e lerfu sampu zmadu gasnu tezu'e tu'a la .lojban. .i mi cfagau sepi'o lo ku'urdi selyle'u po'o mu'o

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Impossible sounds Henrik Hansen
08/12/07(Sun)18:08 No.311
Impossible sounds Henrik Hansen 08/12/07(Sun)18:08 No.311   [Reply] []

The sound ø, is, as far as I can see, impossible to do in the current set of sounds that Lojban offer.
This is a big flaw if it's true!!!
Serval names are impossible to convert, and the language pronouncification don't utilize the humans voice inertly.

So is this true, is Lojban incomplete, and if this is intentional, what would you do with a name like Søren Østergård
So should we add n

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Anonymous
08/12/07(Sun)19:08 No.312 []

When you lojbanize a name or fu'ivla, you convert sounds not present in Lojban to their nearest equivalent. The closest Lojban equivalent of ø is e. This is no worse than, for example, Lojbanizing the name Theodore to .tiodor. by replacing θ with t.

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donri
08/12/08(Mon)04:25 No.314 []

Isn't {y} like "ø"? It is like "ö" anyway. Call it a flaw all you like, no language support the full IPA natively and it would be well beyond the scope of lojban to do so. OMG we must support nonhuman sounds too! Where would you draw the limit? Human? Who defines human? ...

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RE: Impossible sounds Anonymous
12/04/28(Sat)16:18 No.641 []

I think the point is not to support all possible sounds but to only support ones that are found in most of the largest languages and that don't sound similar. That is, not having uncommon sounds is a feature, not a bug.

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jbopomofo orthography cntrational
11/09/30(Fri)16:05 No.632
jbopomofo orthography cntrational 11/09/30(Fri)16:05 No.632   [Reply] []

An orthography meant to be used with a Chinese orthograhpy.

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a ㄚ
e ㄜ
i ㄧ
o ㄛ
u ㄨ
y ㄩ

f ㄈ
v ㄑ
x ㄏ

s ㄙ

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RE: jbopomofo orthography chocodum
11/11/17(Thu)04:26 No.635 []

These symbols are usually only used in Taiwan. The people in Mainland China who use Mandarin use the Latin alphabet. Also, the fact that there is not a standardized bunch of shapes to represent letters in Lojban mean there's going to be a lot of different set of letters to be learned Lojban actually ever comes into place worldwide.

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RE: jbopomofo orthography YH
12/03/30(Fri)04:39 No.640 []

Plus, there's a mistake in this alphabet - the Chinese e (ㄜ) is different from the Lojban e, but more similar to Lojban y. A more accurate one should be as follow:
a ㄚ
e ㄝ
i ㄧ
o ㄛ
u ㄨ
y ㄜ

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Yet another script lukys
11/12/29(Thu)07:04 No.637
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Yet another script lukys 11/12/29(Thu)07:04 No.637   [Reply] []

This one was crafted with the notion of simplicity at mind. The letters are designed so that they are one stroke each. I have made an .odt file with some Unicode approximations I have found. They are overall pretty close to what I had in mind.
The vowels are a bit unique. They are made by drawing the lines adjacent or tangent (depending on whether it's on a corner or not) to the specific vowel on the IPA vowels chart and circling the vowel.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA_vowels_chart_with_audio).
Please let me know what you think.

Here is the .odt file, and I will produce a .doc file on request:
http://www.2shared.com/file/5XjOerYq/lukys_script.html

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RE: Yet another script lukys
11/12/29(Thu)07:04 No.638 []
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RE: Yet another script lukys
11/12/29(Thu)07:06 No.639 []

>>638
It appears you can upload supposedly non-supported files, so here's that document.
If you don't have a font that supports many Unicode characters, la'e la'e zoi gy. http://www.linuxlibertine.org/index.php?id=91&L=1 gy. is a good one.

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question Anonymous
10/05/28(Fri)00:56 No.566
question Anonymous 10/05/28(Fri)00:56 No.566   [Reply] []

why ljban use the apostopher for the "h" sound
and why not the apostopher for the stops

explain me why

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RE: question Anonymous
10/11/08(Mon)07:26 No.590 []

but i still dont understand why they cant use the H instead of the postopher, H does not represent any other sound in lojban

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RE: question la cribe
10/11/08(Mon)14:46 No.591 []

I think I remember hearing an explanation for why they chose '. So this is all conjecture based on old and vague memories.
The ' is going to be a common thing since it is used very often, so they wanted to choose a letteral/symbol that was "lightweight" and not harsh and distracting. And not giving it it's own "real" letter like "h" helps to set it apart since it really isn't a "real" letter like the rest.

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RE: question chocodum
11/11/17(Thu)04:33 No.636 []

.y'y. is used to make different "shapes" of vowels, separating "oi" and "o'i". It never occurs outside of two vowels and only serves that one purpose, so it should not be considered a lerfu. Even when counting lerfu to determine whether something is a gismu or not. I think. I can't remember who told me that.

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shavian characters: a proposal remod
09/09/01(Tue)18:01 No.397
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shavian characters: a proposal remod 09/09/01(Tue)18:01 No.397   [Reply] []

I put together a two pages document showing how shavian could be used to write Lojban. If you spend a couple of minutes looking at the examples, things could even start making sense :)

Whether is a good idea to use a different script than Latin or not, it's an entirely different discussion!

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RE: shavian characters: a proposal rarnavon
09/09/03(Thu)23:59 No.401 []
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>>400

Better it being accounted for than otherwise. I think we could simply steal a better/functional script. Like the Ithkuil script. No harm in two constructed languages sharing a script is there? Least it seems to offer something.

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RE: shavian characters: a proposal rarnavon
09/09/04(Fri)00:00 No.403 []
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Umm, redo of the image.

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RE: shavian characters: a proposal la ramxinfo
11/07/29(Fri)02:36 No.627 []

>>401
Ithkuil script is very tightly bound to that language's grammar. One cannot just take phonetic rendition of lojban text and write it in ithkuil characters. And while there are some common ideas in lojban grammar and ithkuil grammar, they are distinct enough to make mapping between them a quite difficult task.

For instance: in theory, there is no distinction in ithkuil corresponding to the distinction between sumti and selbri. In practice, most of time, main word of predicate have some verbal categories indicators, and other words have case category indicator, so we can take and use case category marker from the ithkuil script and use it to represent FA, modal and tense place tags. But there is two complications for that use: first, idiosyncratic semantics of FA places for every gismu; and second, that what lojban modal/tense system is even more complex and rich than ithkuil's dozens of cases. And that's only one example of transcription difficulties.

So, while one can devise a system for using ithkuil script to represent lojban text, it (most probably) will be highly unpractical and artificial. Better to take ithkuil script as a model or a lesson and devise a lojban semantic script based on similar principles.

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Why Are You Interested in Lojban? .kriltic.
08/11/10(Mon)23:46 No.257
Why Are You Interested in Lojban? .kriltic. 08/11/10(Mon)23:46 No.257   [Reply] []

I know, for me, the most prominent reason is that I like knowing anything that others do not but about which I may share my knowledge.

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RE: Why Are You Interested in Lojban? cntrational
11/06/11(Sat)06:28 No.621 []

It's interesting.

Having to deal with idiotic anti-natlangists is annoying, though.

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RE: Why Are You Interested in Lojban? Aizies.
11/06/24(Fri)01:12 No.622 []

I'm interested in using it for planning out programs and documenting code. Plus I'm a linguistics student as well

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RE: Why Are You Interested in Lojban? Anonymous
11/07/15(Fri)00:08 No.624 []

I like it because I am starting to realize that I am an idealist..
Basically I like to do things the way I think they should be regardless of practicality.
So for me I see what lojban could be and I choose to learn and support it regardless of its current status

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larlermorna font ctino
10/11/24(Wed)06:35 No.604
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larlermorna font ctino 10/11/24(Wed)06:35 No.604   [Reply] []

I tried making a font for writing in larlermorna. It was really annoying because I don't have a proper font editing program, so I had to use FontStruct. There are some visible kerning issues. But, I think it looks pretty dandy. Tell me if there're issues you see and I /might/ be able to fix them.

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And! ctino
10/11/24(Wed)06:39 No.606 []
> = centered dot. Like for names, it looks nice.
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Fixed a problem ctino
10/11/24(Wed)06:52 No.607 []
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Fixed an issue with the '.

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RE: larlermorna font jifysmac
11/02/19(Sat)14:56 No.619 []

Just installed it; can't wait to use. Thanks kindly.

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ctinoscript font ctino
10/11/24(Wed)20:18 No.611
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ctinoscript font ctino 10/11/24(Wed)20:18 No.611   [Reply] []

Here's a font I made for writing in my script.
Some notes: - uses the [space] character. )@#$%^ are for dau fei gai jau rei vai respectively. ' creates a small H. If you're writing in lojban and want to keep all the characters on the same level just type H.

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new version ctino
10/11/30(Tue)08:45 No.612 []
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Here's a new version with a better (see fixed to be full-sized) space.

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Newest version ctino
10/11/30(Tue)21:34 No.613 []
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I editing the font, so it now includes some cool extra characters like @ and æ!
Please try it out :)
Sadly there aren't any combining diacritics in FontForge :( So I can't add those…

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I forgot to mention... ctino
10/11/30(Tue)21:35 No.614 []

ABCDE are now used for dau fei gai jau rei and vai to allow for the extra characters that were being used before to be included in the font.

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